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This is an essay by LowKey.
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Analysis of Allah of the Qur'an and God of the Bible shows that Muslims do not worship the same Deity as Jews and Christians


It has been claimed that the Allah of the Qur’an and the God of the Bible/Torah are one. This claim does not bear up to scrutiny of the respective scriptures themselves.

What follows is a summary of some reasons why the proposition Allah=God is false. Sources are not yet provided, although mostly I will be relying on the Bible and Qur’an themselves. Other than that, I will look a little at the history of Islam, for which I have not yet provided citations, but I will.

I will improve this and expand upon it as I have time.

According to the theology of Jews and Christians the God of the Bible is both consistent and unchanging. Likewise according to the theology of Muslims the Allah of the Qur’an is both consistent and unchanging. Specifically, the Qur’an says that the words of Allah cannot be changed. Christians hold the Bible to be the “Word of God”, and Jews hold the same for the Torah (Genesis – Deutoronomy). Likewise Muslims believe that the Qur’an is Allah’s revealed message.

Regarding false statements, and atonement/expiation

  • Exodus 20 records God as commanding “No false testimony.”
  • Exodus 23 records more of God’s direct instructions, including, “You shall not spread a false report,” “keep far from a false charge.” This last instruction includes the following reason; “for I will not acquit the wicked.”
  • Zechariah 8 records God saying “Speak the truth to one another,” and, “love no false oath, for all these things I hate.”

By contrast:

  • Surah 2:225 says, "Allah will not call you to account for thoughtlessness in your oaths, but for the intention in your hearts; and He is Oft-forgiving, Most Forbearing."
  • Surah 5:89 says, "Allah will not call you to account for what is futile in your oaths” and, “for expiation, feed ten indigent persons, on a scale of the average for the food of your families; or clothe them; or give a slave his freedom. If that is beyond your means, fast for three days. That is the expiation for the oaths ye have sworn.”

There is a sharp contradiction here. God of the Bible takes a specific and strong line against false statements, even to hating them, and includes a notice “I will not acquit the wicked.” The Qur’an indicates that Allah is not very concerned about false statements, forgiving them pretty much automatically if they are “thoughtless” and apparently expiation for a deliberate false oath can be achieved with a little charity or fasting.

This highlights another contradiction. The Qur’an has here listed some minor “penances” as being sufficient for expiation of some sins, but the Bible specifically prescribes the sacrifice of life’s blood for atonement. There are many references to sin-offerings or atonement sacrifices in Exodus and Leviticus (quoting God in his instructions), and Leviticus 17 specifically records God saying, “For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it for you on the altar to make atonement for your souls, for it is the blood that makes atonement by the life.”

Remember, according to the Qur’an, “"No change can there be in the words of Allah" (Sura 10:64). Therefore if God’s words are contradictory to Allah’s they are therefore not Allah’s words. If God spoke words that cannot be Allah’s words then God cannot be Allah.

“Our Allah and Your Allah is One”

Much is made of a passage in Surah 29 which reads,

“And do not dispute with the followers of the Book except by what is best, except those of them who act unjustly, and say: We believe in that which has been revealed to us and revealed to you, and our Allah and your Allah is One, and to Him do we submit."

There are a couple of problems with claiming this as support for the proposition Allah=God.

The passage itself does not actually claim that Allah (“our Allah”) and God (“your Allah”) are one and the same. Rather, it directs Muslims to say that this is the case, without actually asserting it to be true. Recall the passages in Surah 2 and 5 essentially permitting thoughtless and false oaths.

Surah 29 is a Meccan Surah. It was written at a time when Mohammed and his followers were seeking sympathy from followers of the other Abrahamic religions, particularly Judaism. The Muslims at that time were relatively powerless and needed allies, and in fact were being persecuted. In Medina the situation changed dramatically, and it is the Madinan Surah that include instructions about cutting necks and fingers, rather than avoiding disputes.

Surah 29 does not support the Allah=God proposition as it is merely an instruction about what to say, given to people who have permission to be misleading in their oaths, and who have reason to avoid attracting negative attention.

Origin of Islam

Muhammed claimed that the Surah were revealed to him by the angel Gabriel. Some Muslim scholars have seriously suggested that he in fact made it up and plagiarised Judaism from memory. Rather than draw a conclusion on that, consider the possibilities. Muhammed was either visited and given the Surah or he was not. If he was not, then Allah is a fiction created by Muhammed (or by someone else).

If he was visited by a supernatural being, there are still two possibilities. Either the being was Gabriel as claimed, and was revealing the truth, or was someone else and therefore the "Allah" revealed is not the God of the Torah. It has already been shown above that Allah of the Qur'an and God of the Bible have mutually exclusive characteristics, therefore any being providing the revelations of the Qur'an was not revealing the God of the Bible, but someone else (or again a fiction, created in this case by the supernatural being).

Therefore either the Qur'an is the work of Man, and Allah is a fiction, or it is the work of a supernatural being not from God and Allah is a real being falsely attributed godhood, or a fiction. Either way Allah is therefore not the actual Creator God of the Bible.

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